No. 25: Boater Fees for Improved River Access

This week we talked about the Oregon State Marine Board’s proposal to require recreational paddlers with boats over 10 feet pay an annual $17 fee.

News of the Week

Feather Fest this weekend

Gear Corner

Cool CRKT Knife (Zach)
NRS Bills Bags
– Shorty Dry Tops are Rad (Erik)

No. 24: Best Multi-Day River Trips

This week we discussed the best multi-day trips. We came up with lists of the best summer trip to do with your friends and the best multi-day trips if season and skill aren’t an issue.

Best Multi-Day Trips with Friends and Family

Even though they are numbered, these are not in any particular except we thought the first 3 were the best.

1. Middle Fork of the Salmon River (Idaho)
2. Rogue River (Oregon)
3. Main Salmon (Idaho)
4. Green River – Gates of Lodore (Utah)
5. Klamath River (California)
6. Rio Grande (Texas)
7. Colorado River – Cataract Canyon (Utah)
8. Owyhee River (Oregon)

Rafting and Kayaking the Middle Fork of the Salmon River

Rafting and Kayaking the Middle Fork of the Salmon River

Best Adventurous Multi-Day Trips (Raftable)

Again, not in any particular order

1. Middle Fork of the Feather (California)
2. Illinois River (Oregon)
3. South Fork of the Salmon (Idaho)
4. Jarbidge and Bruneau Rivers (Idaho)
5. Colorado River – Grand Canyon (Arizona)
6. Tatshenshini/Alsek Rivers (Alaska and Canada)
7. Selway River (Idaho)
8. Tuolumne River (California)
9. Kern River – Forks of the Kern (California)

Rafting Oregon's Illinois River

Rafting Oregon’s Illinois River

No. 23: Selected Favorite Rivers & River Trip Categories

News of the Week

– Adam and Susan’s Wild and Scenic Rivers Book – Paddling America: Discover and Explore Our 50 Greatest Wild and Scenic Rivers
– Check out the Jackson Kayak Antix

Main Topic: Favorite River Trip Lists

We talked about The River Gypsies’ Guide to North America: A Whitewater Travel Guide to 294 of the Continent’s Best Rivers which lists the best rivers around the United States.

Our Top 5 Adventurous(*) Runs that Most People Can Handle List
1. Chetco River (Oregon)
2. Big Creek (Idaho)
3. Bridge and Wooley Creek (California)
4. Middle Fork Flathead (Montana)
5. Escalante (Utah)

(*) Adventurous runs have difficult access and limited beta

Hiking into Oregon's Chetco River

Hiking into Oregon’s Chetco River

Our Top 10 Reasonably Hard Classic Whitewater Runs with Reliable Water Flows
1. Upper Tuolumne – Cherry Creek (California)
2. Upper Gauley (West Virginia)
3. Upper Upper Cispus (Washington)
4. White Salmon – Green Truss (Washington)
5. Little White Salmon (Washington)
6. Green Narrows (North Carolina)
7. Colorado – Gore Canyon (Colorado)
8. North Fork of the Payette (Idaho)
9. Chattooga – Section Four (Georgia and South Carolina Border)
10. Wenatchee – Tumbwater Canyon (Washington)

We struggled trying to define these lists and if you have any suggestions to make our lists better and/or come up with better criteria please email us at

We’ll cover our favorite classic multi-day trips next week!

Gear Corner

– Zach – Super Guide Gear Throw Bags
– Erik – Witt Wear Shorts
– Priscilla – Poweradd Speakers

No. 21: Making Boating Friends and Getting Better

This week we responded to an email from a listener who asked about how to make boating friends and improve your skills.

Here are some links to things we talked about:
Meadowcamp Race facebook page
– Stay clear of Salmon Redds (article)
Northwest Rafting Company Rowing Schools
Canyon River Instruction
The Complete Whitewater Rafter by Jeff Bennett

Gear of the Week
Strava App
CGEAR Sand Mats
– External Hard Drives

No. 20: Influencing the Next Generation of Paddlers

This week we talk about mentorship for whitewater paddlers.

Whitewater Mentorship

Whitewater Mentorship

Meadowcamp Race Tomorrow
– We discuss top river lists including the recent one in Men’s Journal

Gear of the Week
– Zach: Gatorade Bottles
– Priscilla: MSR Free Lite 2 Tent
– Aaron: Astral Shoes

No. 18: Danger Ropes vs Perimeter Lines

This week Tim from River Drifters joins us to talk about using perimeter lines on your raft.

We also received our first viewer email and attempt to answer the question: “Are kayakers intrinsically disrespectful?”

News of the Week

Rogue River Gear Swamp this Saturday from 8:30 to 11:00 AM
Big Water Blowout in Riggins, Idaho is this weekend
White Salmon River Fest this weekend (June 1-3, 2018)

Gear of the Week

– 50 to 60 degree offset paddles are awesome (thanks Hammer Factor)
Saywer SquareTop Oars

No. 17: Bros, Pros, Crunchies, and Overcertified

Today we talked about river guide professionalism and Priscilla did an exceptionally great job of coming up with river guide stereotypes.

News of the week

Gear of the week

No. 16: People, Permits and Portable Boom-Boxes

Today we talked about the overall push to get more people outdoors, and what the costs of doing so might be.  We additionally talked about river permit systems and opinions about portable music in the outdoors.

Here are some other things we mentioned: